This was the first game i've watched of this finals. I've been reading/told this was a boring series. The final 3 minutes of the 4th quarter:3:01 79-80 Chauncey Billups made Free Throw 1 of 2.
3:01 79-81 Chauncey Billups made Free Throw 2 of 2.
2:46 Manu Ginobili made 9 ft running jumper. 81-81
2:27 81-83 Richard Hamilton made jumper. Assisted by Chauncey Billups.
2:19 San Antonio Full Timeout.2:15 81-83 Rasheed Wallace Shooting Foul. His 4th Personal Foul.
2:15 Robert Horry made Free Throw 1 of 2. 82-83
2:15 Robert Horry made Free Throw 2 of 2. 83-832:00 83-85 Rasheed Wallace made 8 ft jumper. Assisted by Chauncey Billups.
1:47 Manu Ginobili missed layup. 83-85
1:46 Robert Horry offensive rebound. 83-851:46 Robert Horry made tip shot. 85-851:29 85-87 Chauncey Billups made 7 ft two point shot.
1:16 Robert Horry made 25 ft three point jumper. Assisted by Tony Parker. 88-87
1:01 88-87 Richard Hamilton missed jumper.
1:00 Tim Duncan defensive rebound. 88-87
1:00 88-87 Richard Hamilton Personal Foul. His 4th Personal Foul.
1:00 Tim Duncan missed Free Throw 1 of 2. 88-87
1:00 San Antonio offensive rebound. 88-87
1:00 Tim Duncan missed Free Throw 2 of 2. 88-87
0:59 88-87 Tayshaun Prince defensive rebound.
0:59 Detroit Full Timeout.0:51 88-89 Chauncey Billups made driving layup.
0:33 88-89 Rasheed Wallace Shooting Foul. His 5th Personal Foul.
0:33 Tim Duncan missed Free Throw 1 of 2. 88-89
0:33 San Antonio offensive rebound. 88-89
0:36 Manu Ginobili offensive rebound. 88-890:33 Tim Duncan made Free Throw 2 of 2. 89-89
0:33 Detroit Full Timeout.
0:17 89-89 Chauncey Billups missed layup.
0:16 Bruce Bowen defensive rebound. 89-89
0:16 San Antonio Full Timeout.
0:01 Manu Ginobili's layup blocked by Ben Wallace. 89-89
0:00 Tim Duncan offensive rebound. 89-89
0:00 Tim Duncan missed tip shot. 89-89
0:00 89-89 Rasheed Wallace defensive rebound.
0:00 End of the 4th Quarter.
Just wanted to find this for my own recollection of a consecutive series of 9 possesions (depending on how you define possessions) where the two teams, challenging the top 2 defenses in the league in crunch time of a pivotal game 5, converted on NINE STRAIGHT possessions, to keep the teams within 2 points of each other THROUGHOUT THE QUARTER. In a finals game. A game 5. Against the top 2 defenses. Wow.
Since I'm not I diehard fan of either team, I'm not really as emotionally involved in the series. Yet I'd have to believe this was one of the 10 greatest finals games I've witnessed. (My personal NBA history only dates back to the last of the Laker-Celtic series in the 80's.)
Among the intriguing subplots:
-The Wallace f**kups (The Weber Timeout and The Botched Double off of Horry.)
-The compelling play throughout, but especially in the 4th & overtime, when a few select players spit in the face of SABRmatic folk everywhere by building on the lore of The Clutch Player (and the Choke Artist) (and yes, I know this ain't baseball and that stuff don't crossover as easily as Billups does.)
-Groundhog Day aka The Cornerstone aka Mr. Fundamental goes for 26 and 19.... yet ends up being saved by the Man In Black- Mr. Will Smith... err.. horry. Let's see: Duncan as the greatest PF of all time, taking the mantle away from The Mailman? Throwing up solid/spectacular numbers in both points and rebounding? Check. Dissappearing/choking at the end of a crucial game? Check. We have liftoff. (Did anyone else think of Jordan's strip of Malone when Duncan lost the ball/missed those free throws?) (stirring up a pot of hatemail i'm sure)
-Billups looking Isaiah Thomas-esque...
-Yet being overshadowed by Horry
-And having the final play taken away from him for option #2,954: a struggling Rip Hamilton on the block, throwing up, along with flailing elbows, junk in the final shot of the game.
-(note to self: Rip 2005 Finals= Lewis 2005 Playoffs vs. Spurs)
And regarding the final 2 plays:
-The Spurs ran the play for Manu to get the ball in the corner and drive. Duncan was not option 1 in the play. Duncan did not pull a Scottie Pippen. Manu was trapped in the corner & Horry reprises Toni Kukoc's role and plays the hero. Should Duncan be applauded for not demanding the ball, as the reverse held that Pippen was bashed for bitching about his noncall? Is the old "true superstars demand the ball in game on the line situations" something we should seriously question from now on?
---Result of play: Game winning 3. Right call/play. Spurs/Pop are smart
-Similarly for Detroit. Billups has the mojo going throughout the game. Looks unstoppable in the 4th and OT, positively clutch and fearless going into the lane. Yet they set the play up for Hamilton. Should Billups be criticised for not demanding the ball? Is the old "true superstars demand the ball in game on the line situations" something we should seriously bring up now?
---Result of play: Game losing shot. Wrong call/play
I guess that's right. I guess.
-Also, regarding the obvious
f**kup by Wallace on leaving Horry... The play had the spurs inbound the ball to Manu in the corner. Wallace comes to double. Manu has the ball in the corner, with boundaries on two sides, and the ++ on the ball defense and long wingspans of Tayshaun Prince and Rasheed Wallace converging on him. If Wallace was half a second faster, Manu half a second slower, I think we'd be singing a different song right about now, and it would not end in Wallace bashing/Horry praises.
-Robert Horry, Robert Horry, Robert Horry. On his 1st few shots converted the initial thought that came to mind was that his legendary status may be the largest reasoning for his legendary status... Eveytime he made a shot the thought in everyone's head, the words spoken out of every nba analyst, is Rob's clutch. If Joe schmoe were to make a 3, make it 2 in the same situation, that wouldn't happen. Of course, I'm not really thinking this right now/anymore... My bad Rob.... You know i was just playin!!
Years from now we're gonna be discussing what a great dynasty the Spurs are. We'll be talking about where they rank in comparison to the 70-80's celtics, the 80's lakers, the 90's bulls...
If Rob doesn't make that shot we'd be wondering where these pistons rank among clutch playoffs teams like the early 90's pistons or late 90's rockets.
If Horry misses, we'd also be talking about the inadequacies of Duncan. The non clutch factor. The what coulda been for a team loaded with such talent, such potential.
Likewise in 02, Horry made that shot and sank the Kings. Webber: inaduquate/choke artist overrated. Peja: likewise. Kings: what could have been.
Robert Horry: A monkey wrench thrown into the space time continuum of the NBA World. Somewhere in Bizarroland The dynastic Kings and Pistons are smiling.